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Hy 4 Preview

Community sentiment from 6 posts · 127 comments · collected September 26, 2026 · generated September 26, 2026

Hy 4 Preview scores 66/100 overall in the r/LocalLLaMA community benchmark, collected September 26, 2026 from 6 posts and 127 comments. Its strongest category is Intelligence at 80/100, and its weakest is Speed at 40/100.

66/ 100

Confidence: medium — The sample contains two large, highly opinionated threads (270 source comments, 127 after the 40/post limit) with hard benchmark data cited by the users themselves; but there is no data on API pricing, writing/creativity, or multimodality, and many opinions concern compression or comparisons with Hy3 — hence 2 null categories and a medium rating.

Category scores

Intelligence

80

Threads cite a blind side-by-side of 163 experts across 203 engineering tasks: Hy4 preview slightly ahead of GLM 5.3 (2.99 vs 2.92) and Kimi K3 (2.99 vs 2.94); Horizon Math described as the best among open models (behind GPT-5.6 Sol); users stress 'this is only a PREVIEW' and incomplete post-training (Hy3 gained 50-100% after full training), so the intelligence potential is rated highly, with the caveat of undertraining.

Speed

40

The official statement quoted in the comments admits 'spending longer than necessary reasoning' and a tendency toward over-verification; jokes about '1TPM' and 'done thinking in a week', a note that NVMe offload means 'very slow tps', and the 770B size being 'too big for most people' — the community does not praise the model's working pace.

Coding quality

80

The cited engineering eval: 46.8% wins vs GLM 5.3 and 51.2% wins vs Kimi K3; SWE-Bench multi 82.9 (BF16) -> 81.3 (MIX-STQ1_0 quant) points to a strong coding position; comment on hy3 Q1: 'still very good, won't make syntax errors, just won't think ahead as far'; joking hope for '128% on DeepSWE'.

Instruction following

65

Officially admitted 'tendency to over-verify its own work' (doing more than asked); IFBench 73.5 -> 72.5 after quantization (good retention); the negative anecdote about hy3 as an agent (the model depopulating a field) concerns Hy3, not Hy4.

Long context

70

In the blog TLDR: 'Features 1M context'; MRCR 81.3 -> 81.1 after quantization (very good retention at 1M); no direct user experience with long context — the rating relies on benchmark data cited in the threads.

Price / value

60

Open weights shared on Day 0 on HuggingFace/GitHub/OpenRouter ('Kudos to the Tencent team to release weights on Day 0') — free local use; but the question 'any word on pricing 👀' went unanswered (no data on API pricing) and there is widespread complaining about hardware costs (200GB+ RAM, 'need 00001 quant for 32gb VRAM').

Reliability & uptime

55

Officially: 'we are shipping with known issues' given the preview status; no reported 429s/outages in the sample; no long-term user experience with Hy4 (the model is fresh).

Creativity & writing

no data

No data in the sample — none of the 127 comments rates Hy4's writing/creativity.

Multimodal & vision

no data

No data in the sample — the only mention of multimodality is a teaser from Tencent's quarterly report ('further enhancing model performance and multimodal capabilities'), with no user ratings.

Agentic & tool use

68

Hy4 in the Yuanbao app is labeled 'Use Tools to Solve Problems'; a comment about the viral workbuddy harness and 'massive agentic dataset for the post-train. Looking forward to it.'; the caveat that aggressive quantization breaks long agentic runs ('long agentic runs fall apart... around turn ten').

Summary

Hy 4 Preview (Tencent Hunyuan, 770B total / 49B active) debuted on r/localllama with open weights on Day 0 and immediately sparked a large discussion — the biggest compression thread gathered 900+ upvotes. The community is most impressed by the quantization engineering: the official GGUF MIX-STQ1_0 cuts 1.5TB down to ~200GB with a claimed ~98% retention (MCP Atlas 83.7→83.2, SWE-Bench multi 82.9→81.3, MRCR 81.3→81.1, IFBench 73.5→72.5), and the comments praise that more than KL divergence alone was measured.

Quality impressions come from blind tests cited in the threads: 163 experts rated 203 engineering tasks and Hy4 preview came out slightly ahead of GLM 5.3 (2.99 vs 2.92, 46.8% wins) and Kimi K3 (2.99 vs 2.94, 51.2% wins). Strong science signals also appear — Horizon Math described as the best result among open models (second only to GPT-5.6 Sol) plus examples of 'AI for science'. Many users stress that this is only a preview: Tencent officially admitted leaving headroom in pre/post-training, and Hy3 gained 50–100% after full training.

The main caveats concern working pace and availability: the official statement admits 'spending longer than necessary reasoning' and 'tendency to over-verify its own work', and the 770B/A49B size puts the model out of reach locally for most people (jokes about '1TPM', 'better than 0 t/s', the need for VRAM+RAM+NVMe). Users also note that aggressive quants degrade unevenly — short questions pass fine, but 'long agentic runs fall apart' around the ~tenth turn. No ROCm support and no llama.cpp PR on launch day further narrow the pool of users.

API pricing was not discussed in the sample (one question left unanswered), and ratings of writing/creativity and multimodality never came up at all — those categories remain unscored. Overall the sentiment is clearly positive with a 'great preview, waiting for the full release' note, though with a realistic distance regarding hardware requirements.

Pros and cons

Pros

  • Spectacular compression: 1.5TB -> ~200GB GGUF with ~98% benchmark retention (MCP Atlas 83.7->83.2, SWE-Bench multi 82.9->81.3)
  • Frontier-level quality: blind test wins over GLM 5.3 and Kimi K3; Horizon Math the best among open models
  • Open weights on Day 0 on HuggingFace/GitHub/OpenRouter, 1M context
  • Large upside potential — officially admitted headroom; Hy3 gained 50-100% after full training
  • Strong agentic backing: the 'Use Tools to Solve Problems' label and the viral workbuddy harness as a signal of a large post-train dataset

Cons

  • Overthinking: officially admitted 'spending longer than necessary reasoning' and 'over-verify its own work'
  • 770B/A49B size — ~200GB+ of memory, out of reach locally for most users
  • Degradation of long agentic sessions after aggressive quantization ('gap opens around turn ten')
  • No ROCm or llamacpp support on launch day (custom patch, PR in progress)
  • No data on API pricing and no user ratings for long-context/multimodal/writing

Top quotes

  • “WTF! That's insane. Someone test this lol.”
    shy_monkee · 208 points positive view on Reddit ↗
  • “Hy4 preview came out slightly ahead of both GLM 5.3 (2.99 vs. 2.92 average, 46.8% wins / 12.8% ties / 40.4% losses) and Kimi K3 (2.99 vs. 2.94, 51.2% wins)”
    Beamsters · 124 points positive view on Reddit ↗
  • “The future of local models is brighter than expected. We can still compress them further. Hy4 has not yet been sufficiently (post-)trained.”
    cometkim · 144 points positive view on Reddit ↗
  • “Awesome. Only 190 GB more to go and then I will run it on my RTX 3080.”
    RickyRickC137 · 168 points positive view on Reddit ↗
  • “This is an early version of Hy4... among them, spending longer than necessary reasoning through complex tasks, and a tendency to over-verify its own work.”
    KaMaFour · 101 points neutral view on Reddit ↗
  • “Aggressive quants don't degrade uniformly. Short single-turn questions barely move; long agentic runs fall apart... that gap open up around turn ten, never at turn one.”
    Other_Many_130 · 7 points negative view on Reddit ↗
  • “Features 1M context; excels at real-world productivity tasks. Beats GLM-5.3 and Kimi K3 in blind expert tests.”
    Mysterious_Finish543 · 80 points positive view on Reddit ↗
  • “The only saving grace from an onslaught of "iT oVerTHinKs" posts is the fact that it's a huge-ass chonker of a model, too big for most people.”
    VotZeFuk · 29 points negative view on Reddit ↗
  • “And this is a PREVIEW? The actual release must actually be fable level or higher then?”
    Daniel_H212 · 56 points positive view on Reddit ↗
  • “Their Horizon Math score is the best among all open models, and second only to GPT-5.6 Sol.”
    vincentz42 · 16 points positive view on Reddit ↗
  • “people legit get excited when somebody gets one of these monsters running at 1TPM, even if practical use is ask a question and it may be done thinking in a week or so.”
    SanDiegoDude · 6 points neutral view on Reddit ↗
  • “Glad it was measured on more than just KL divergence, 98% on KL can be very misleading.”
    Practical-Collar3063 · 32 points neutral view on Reddit ↗

Top sample posts

Top 5 of 6 posts by score

FAQ

What is Hy 4 Preview's overall community score?
66 out of 100, with medium confidence: The sample contains two large, highly opinionated threads (270 source comments, 127 after the 40/post limit) with hard benchmark data cited by the users themselves; but there is no data on API pricing, writing/creativity, or multimodality, and many opinions concern compression or comparisons with Hy3 — hence 2 null categories and a medium rating.
How was the Hy 4 Preview benchmark collected?
From 6 posts and 127 comments on r/LocalLLaMA sampled over the all time window.
Which categories does the Hy 4 Preview report score?
Intelligence, Speed, Coding quality, Instruction following, Long context, Price / value, Reliability & uptime, Creativity & writing, Multimodal & vision, Agentic & tool use.
What are the main community pros and cons for Hy 4 Preview?
Top pros: Spectacular compression: 1.5TB -> ~200GB GGUF with ~98% benchmark retention (MCP Atlas 83.7->83.2, SWE-Bench multi 82.9->81.3); Frontier-level quality: blind test wins over GLM 5.3 and Kimi K3; Horizon Math the best among open models. Main cons: Overthinking: officially admitted 'spending longer than necessary reasoning' and 'over-verify its own work'; 770B/A49B size — ~200GB+ of memory, out of reach locally for most users.
When was the Hy 4 Preview data collected?
Collected on September 26, 2026; the report was generated on September 26, 2026.

Collected from public r/LocalLLaMA posts and comments via Reddit JSON API on September 26, 2026.